You mentioned the Lacy Peterson case in passing, but the comparisons are far closer. Thats what they all do play victim. Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. Chris Watts' Parents He has a sister named Jamie Lynn Williams. Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. Its probable that she really did not want to be part of the wedding party to begin with (under constant pressure from Cindy). Would you let her walk around a tall building with no railing? Previous post 10 X Audio Excerpts from the TWO FACE series read by the author [Includes the Story behind what went into writing the various narratives] Next post "The reason the medical examiner found Oxycodone in Shan'ann's system is because I gave it to her" - Chris Watts By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. The conversation spiraled out of control when Cindy claimed 3-year-old Celeste was a spitting image of her father, who brutally murdered her. Thats all I mean. "Happy . Everyone that has tried to help her in the past has ended up breaking free of her because they know how narcissistic she is. Chilling moment killer dad Chris Watts calmly buys breakfast roll after I grew up in upper middle class. That had nothing to do with it. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. "Where the hell. Inside edition= Fake News. (His defense attorney) shut me down. You say that he killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress, not because he disliked his wife, so did he kill his wife because he liked her then? The Rzucek family are weird as well. Thats it. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. Murderer Chris Watts Gets Multiple Prison Visits From Anna Nowak A mother not attending her sons wedding is HUGE. Exclusive Prison Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His I cant imagine how shanann is the one being attacked but not his mother, sister, or mistress. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). I am not doing a book on this, interviews are not books. Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. she literally works at a hospital so its very possible that she has close connections to patients that may be prescribed it or it may just be easy for her to get her hands on. The families involved have interesting, if not dysfunctional, dynamics going on. I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. They were heavy drinkers. You were made for something else. What a shitty thing to do. Chris Watts' "photographic memory" provides a unique window into his mind, and his psychology. Total narcissism. She made Chris into what he is today, a monster. I can see responsibility on both sides the mother to be mature and wise enough to accept the sons choice of wife, and the new wife working to accept her husbands family but in this case, ShanAnns the one who ended up paying the price. But to just not send them? Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. JAMIE left numerous times after high school and would always move back home. I think the whole family dynamics, along with the extended family, was just very toxic. A while back, I saw a video of Chris, Shanann, Bella and CeeCee with Chris parents. You are the first person who has suggested this. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Others on his approved list from 2019 include parents Ronnie and Cynthia Watts, sister Jamie Williams and three other friends. To me, all they wanted to do was save his life, just save his life. NOTHING. Oct 31 2015. Thank you! Next time she will not do thatoh wait, never mind she cant correct her behavior because Chris killed her and the girls. Her version is a very twisted version. Jump to Sections of this page His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. The wedding? I agree. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding. Likewise, Chris's birthplace is Spring Lake, North Carolina, U.S., and his zodiac sign is Taurus. Secondly, my impression while researching the Scott Peterson case was that the Petersons didnt think that much of Laci, or Lacis family. I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. That probably did not help the situation in any way. Two camps? Even though Ive written three books, I feel weve barely scratched the surface, and I think theres a great big pile of skeletons still stuck in the closet. John List is the best known example of this, but there are many others. Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. Two camps. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. All their old friends have said the same thing. If its true that the sister deliberately didnt mail out the invitations then shame on her as that is just wrong. I didnt get all with my In Laws at all. He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who mana. Email In Touch at contact@intouchweekly.com. Cookie Notice Do you hear yourself? Hate to say it but Shanann emasculated him verbally a lot. Dear God so many people have been affected by this horrific disaster. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. oh, of course. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Shes a piece of work, that one. Isnt it a shame we have to actually defend 2 little girls and their pregnant mommy, after their daddy put them unconscious (no reason to believe they were dead since he didnt kill them the first time) and drowned them in crude oil? I know she didn't attend the court sentencing etc. Asking her mom about shanann not loving Chris etc. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. No, you dont get that she had a problem. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shananns big day was all about Shanann, and Chris family werent even there. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) [Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home]. Jamie Lyn Williams, the sister of Colorado killer Chris Watts appears in an exclusive prison sit-down with her brother. They even believed it was justified. What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? Learn about the nut incident that happened when Shanann took the girls to his family for a visit. The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23. His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. Archived post. Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. Do not say one god damn bad word about Shanann. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. I heard the same theory on Websleuths that Chris Watts was actually murdering his mother. Love your take. My opinion of the Watts family is that they are some of the scummiest people in the world. The Enmity Against the Rzuceks Runs Deep - Shan'ann's mother-in-law So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. Trinket doesnt say much, does she? So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. And learn about all teh times they bashed Shanann in front of her and behind her back. Expect a lot of aggression and animosity from the Shanann camp. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. I would like to understand too, if he killed his kids, and I think he did, why he did it. The one where Cici had turned around and I got a really good close up picture of her and I used that, 64-year-old Cindy said. They can go back under their rocks now we have all seen enough. A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. This subreddit is to discuss facts, speculation, and evidence. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. Maybe one day?. Cindi should never have tried to expose CeCe to nuts. ago. Jamie Middleton Kerry Milligan Jodi Noble Julie Pierce Kimberlee Reimann Padilla* Ann Siner* Sue Singer Dr. Craig Thatcher* Cindy Treacy Cindy Watts Daryl Weil Dr. Kathy Wigal Patty Withycombe Susan Yannitelli *Arizona Humane Society Board of Directors. Shanann wore the pants in the marriage and Chriss anger built over time. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. I could almost hear Cindy Watts yelling and pressuring her husband to do so. Id fight. She made that post in a private allergy support page. Chris Watts got flowers for me yesterday for fun, Shanann Watts says on Thanksgiving Day. #chriswatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Oct 30, 2018 at 12:28am PDT. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga. I feel so sad for her family, they dont deserve this, Shanann was NOTHING like his mother. Estranged from the family? Just not now. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. The books provide a much deeper and more thorough analysis. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I mean are you for real? She was pretty controlling. Cindy Watts mouth turns upside down when she speaks of Shannan in videos. Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. Do you think Shanann would place nuts in some kids ice cream when she knew they were severely allergic to nuts like Cindy Watts did to Celeste?? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Their behavior spoke volumes. Too bad it took 4 lives, 4 innocent lives to find out what a monster he was. Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? They jabbered on and on and on AND THE WHOLE THING WAS CAUSED BY THEIR GOOD-FOR-NOTHING SON!!!! Cookie Notice His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. They absolutely refuse to accept it. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. Was it because they were an extension of Shanann? Watts Family Tapes The Event - Crime Chicken Fried - Facebook and our I, too, am interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, characters involved and MLM influence. Kathleen. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. These people dont even mention the precious children that their son killed WORST GRANDPARENTS EVERRRRRR!!!! According to sources in the know his sister and mother are behind this awful Facebook page and people from it send horrible stuff to shananns parents and police are aware and are investigating. Im sure there are many more Secrets on the Rzucek family.. .. side I think that Chris wanted to save face. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister, Jamie? I do not condone the murders but i can see why this terrible disaster happened. Archived post. It was hard on his father when he CHRIS left because his father was used to him CHRIS always being around. This non buying of nut free food really upset Shanann. If he were to get away with murder, he can still pretend to be Mr Perfect. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. #crime #chriswatts #shanannwattsHis father is his hero and his best friend.shanann watts chris watts, true crime, watts family murders, jamie watts, cindy watts, ronnie watts chris watts, full story, chris, watts, prison mail, fan mail, nichol kessinger, shanann ,love letters, christopher, shanann watts, christopher watts, chris watts full story ,murders, murder, life,morbid minds, autopsy, watts family, confession, dr phil, he watts family homicides, interview, denver7 chris watts, chris watts confession interview, chris watts sentencing, interrogation,shanann watts videos, chris watts arrest, home search, documentary, chris watts neighbor camerahttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434 He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. Nonetheless why risk it? She didnt stir the shit enough was her problem. Nonetheless why risk it? Archived post. Watts Family Tapes The Event ONLY on YouTube and Facebook October 23rd 9-11pm EST Add the event to your calendar here:. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Shannan seems like the type of person who would be really difficult to live with and difficult to satisfy. Yet another Watts fan club rumor. Didnt attend what? Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. I think it makes more sense the theory if CW hated his mother and transferred this hate onto Shanann.. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. Sure gets ones mind in thinking mode! I see your point. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. Bullshit. Required fields are marked *. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. We know in the months leading up to the murders, for Fathers Day [June 17th, 2018] Shanann posted pictures of her father on her wedding day. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. God is watching. We didnt attend because Shanann and I just couldnt get along. Hold on. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. We are different, but I love her dearly and if my son loves her Im also in her corner then. We have a great relationship because of that. Thats ridiculous . The dumb bitch. irrational buy-in to such an inevitable financial disaster. I continue to be intrigued with the Lev-el MLM and their (or perhaps Shananns?) It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. I bet so was Chris mom. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading - YouTube The grew up in a low class family. While Chris' parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. They cant have been too bad then!!! Shanann just exaggerated the shit out of it, like all their health issuesherself included. They cut her off. How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? Chris Watts Prison Interview High Quality Audio (Removed A/C Noise) His despicable family took up more time than anybody. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/. i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. New comments cannot be posted. Chris Watts Exclusive The Watts Family Tapes, Cindy Watts "I - YouTube Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. He is where he belongs and will die there. Cindy didnt kill anybody. He just saw JAMIE and her family during his recent visit to North Carolina. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. That isnt even what happened. Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. I mean that is so simple minded and silly. I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. Also apparently Frankie receiving death threats and some really nasty messages.. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. Not the other way around. I asked Chris, If you did not do this, do not confess to something you didnt do,' Cindy told ABC7 at the time. Shananns the root of evil? She was human and had flaws just like all of us. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. I had a mother in law like her. Maybe for peace . That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. Chris Watts. What if his (unconscious) hatred and rage was really meant for his mother? Guest Post: "Jamie was not present during [Nut Gate]" Im not going to name them. I note from the discovery file she also had a troubled relationship with SW so it would interesting to know more. Its not professional, Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate. Not sure what more she wanted in a daughter-in-law. Quite a start huh? Locked post. Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. No way his mother would have said that crap.

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