By definition, then, the one on the left is an A7 type. I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. For two rather I say LaScala, or Klipschorn because you say 400 horn. you note that the jubilees, 'in themselves have not made me a happier man. For those with much mor eknowledge than I, what are the sound differences? The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency i can perfectly visualize what you are describing thank you for taking the time to help me understand something that maybe fundimental to others. Intriguing, Daddy Dee, but I think (since the wife is just a little tired of my projects) I'll go with what we already planned on which is a new pair of Klipschorns.unless you think getting an older pair of Khorns and modding it like you did with the Tractrix is really the way to go? The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency projection over the A7-8, but both are less sensitive and capable of slightly less maximum acoustic output than the A5X. Hey! This article explains what we need to know about these speakers that are still highly sought-after with many still in use in cinemas. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by Coolhandjjl, Jun 4, 2010. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. I'm also thinking about replacing the T-35 tweeters with Beyma CP-25s. But the RFs cross at 2000hz and even higher. That is why so many "tweakers' swap them out for Altec, JBL or other drivers. Thus even Altecs and JBLs that used direct-radiating woofers had much of the midrange horn-loaded. Hell I'd love to have a pair of each. Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. exactly. Thats why the Altec / Klipsch combo works best Altec I have owned Cornwalls and Klipschorns and presently have a pair of Altec Lansing Model 19s. And that was with the K-55 driver mated to it. Schu Your previous content has been restored. []. Either way, "shout" is not a term that I would personally describe the sound of Altec horns, other than making a reference to basic sonic characteristics that are inherent in any horn loaded speaker system. What crossover frequency were you planning on using? It's futile. Powered by Invision Community. Bloody awesome info! June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. 5) The Altec A-7s sound much like the much bigger Altecs used with the magnetic stereo widescreen movies of the late '50s and the '60s, except that the bigger ones had more authority and more bass. heard them, though. One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. I could see the term being used to loosely describe a horns sound signature, in the same manner as I ascribe to "forward" as also describing an efficient, horn loaded system. They are making new ones for original Altec tools. Klipsch Klipschorn AK6 loudspeaker Page I have consistently found that I 'like" whatever is new in my listening room. Altec Voice of the Theatre 730 driver: 106 dB SPL Cell Configuration 2x5 Throat single throat 30210. In my experience, the Model 19 is preferable to either Klipsch speaker I owned. both 811 and 511 sound far better than K-400. Powered by Invision Community, Now that is the toppest of notches you are ever gonna get [Y]. I have never heard the 19 pitted against the Khorn, but I agree that it is a very good speaker. Q-man and Rick are both excellent resources on this subject. I have Model 19s in the downstairs kitchen, and modded 63 Khorns in the man cave, and they both are outstanding. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. By Everyone claims that it can, but can never say just exactly how. Makes this a great hobby. The Jubs are Fabulous & perform as most other owners have described far more eloquent then I can. You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various herita i guess i need to take them out , since they are so well thought of. Just an observation, but i find it kind of interesting how many of those who have arrived at 19's have owned Cornwalls at some point along their journey. Edit: Just found 4 on e-Bay, if the price stays low enough might pull the plug on three. I know of several people who have made than change. You cannot paste images directly. First let me say my post ( Mdl 19 is a two way, perhaps we should be comparing it to the Klipsch Scaling it up for a 15" woofer would be a very interesting project. and have owned Cornwall, Choruses, and Fortes. feet or more from any corner in which there are Khorns. Xovers: The K-horn did this very well considering they had 3 drivers to contend with. I'm thinking of building a set of two way CW-like speaker using 811-b horn and 816-8 altec woofer (we can call it 811-Cornscala). The Klipschorn is all horn-loaded (the Heresy is not in the woofer), weighs 175 lbs (each) and stands 51 inches tall. affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network, and It might be hard to find a pair to listen to, but search the forum to see if somebody near you has them, and will let you listen. I have a friend who owns these very speakers and I would like to suggest something to him. I keep reading about how nice the mid-range Tactrix horns are.is Klipsch now (at this time) building new Klipschorn speakers with the Tactrix mid range horns??? Pasted as rich text. The classic look of this iconic loudspeaker is completed through the use of retro software luster grill cloth that includes a cast zinc Klipschorn logo. $1700 Firm takes all. I would like to get pair of commercial K-horns. The jubs have been in the house about 7 months now, & I have only listened, have not even started the cosmetic plans of staining the center panel's to match walls & still kicking around different options for grill cloth etc. Owned and used a pair of 1974 Cornwalls for a decade. But saying that you disagree with my statement makes no sense. Altec I just got a pair of 19's after years of looking and they are just great. Your previous content has been restored. They can be improved by modifications to a completely superior level. technical data seem to indicate the Jubs would be better. In other words, they are never going to sound like A7's or K-horns. While the K77 does not extend as far as the aforementioned tweeters, it is a little more toned down/mellower by comparison? I haven't Your previous content has been restored. Just something different often sounds better at first. June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. Secondly, the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. Altec Midrange Horn System - Transform your Klipschorns Not my intent at all. Powered with Mc240 or audio refinement SS amp. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. HERES Why Your Subwoofer is Bottoming Out (And How to FIX It!) So much of your preference depends on your listening habits, the kind of music you prefer, your room, electronics, etc. I have owned all the Heritage series except the Bella's & the Chorus, In my listening room (without good corners & several other undesirable architectural traits, the Jubs have given me the best performance. dkalsi Alas, those of us saddled by SWMBO and WAF to the K-400 must still seek nervana! You can post now and register later. i have these .. i don't view them as overly bright but then You can post now and register later. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of The network is fine, but like the guys are saying, the 811b is only good to a but below 800 Hz. I have them in my Belles and cross them at 700. 811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. the Amazon Associates Program via amazon.com. ). The Khorn bass was better. Altec ', Sorry for that , but I cant agree . altec Altec horns most certainly shout, just like any other, perhaps even more so. $12,000), the finish DOES matter to a significant degree. Happy to say more about the Jubs guys. That is indeed a beautiful 2a3 amp, did you build it Arash? In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. 1) Timbre shifts due to SPL polar control issues vs. frequency - with particular emphasis on both vertical and horizontal polar patterns that are bandpassed due to loss of polar control. The JBL driver has a continuous roll off. The Model 19 was intended and designed as a domestic loudspeaker, not for theatre sound reinforcement. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. I know Al K. is using them on his Belles for sure. Much better bass than the A7 cabinet. OTOH, the smaller Altec drivers have much better HF extention than the 288's so they might be just great. It will work ok at 400 Hz. The 19s go beyond 20k with the original diapgragms in them. 1420514048 Altec A7 What to do Hello all, a Friend of mine has had Altec Lansing A7's sitting in his basement for several years, just couldn't put them in his current room setting. Klipsch Khorn or Altec Lansing model 19 DIY Corner Horns,McIntosh C-26,McIntosh 2505,Micro-Seiki DD-40 TT with Grado reference master,Pioneer RT-909 reel to reel. Al, Did you ever plot an Altec 808 in a K-400? Altec Alternatives Article By Dan Schmalle - Enjoy the Music.com The Aristocrat is a contemporary of the Klipsch "Rebel/Shorthorn". would love to hear it. The "little" A8 is a sleeper. Altec Lansings Voice of the Theatre Speakers - audioXpress If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. They also sound terrific at extremely low SPLs (I have never heard "fade-outs" reproduced better than on Altec drivers) as well as at concert sound levels. I personally don't care for the Altec horns. They just sound "off" and I dunno how else to describe it. I would much sooner go with an EV or JBL, b Best Offer: It's a home-build DIY 6SN7 driven 2A3 3.5Wpc amp: very nice 2A3 amp. Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. to my ears the tractrix mid horns have a more open sound. Classis Altec and Klipsch share the common virtues of great clarity, hair trigger dynamics and high sensitivity. I noticed you used JBL drivers in your Belles. These were Klipschorns, Jubilees and LaScalas. Altec Model 19 vs . Klipschorn - The Klipsch Audio Community Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. There was a whole range of Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers -- the A5 and A7 are probably the most common. I'm going to approach this from a FAST/WAW perspective with an Altec 511B metal horn providing the critical range of frequencies rather like a full range driver would in some of the popular FAST/WAS projects in the Full Range forum here. The original KHorns I most recently sold to a friend in southern Illinois, who is ecstatic about them. Yes, I know it's the sound that matters most but when you're talking about $15,000 speakers (CORRECTION! A design by John Hilliard, Altec Lansing Voice of the Theatre systems originally targeted movie theaters. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=53469, you will love the 511/ 902 driver combo, with maybe an ev 350, or beyma tweeter. too different .. to compare the KH drops ton's of mid detail the 19 present's eloquently the KH produces bass performance the 19 It won't interfere with the woofer at all. " As everyone says, a lot depends on the room, especially with Khorns. Paste as plain text instead, Item Information. Quote Chris A Heritage Members 9.7k Location: Arlington, Texas, USA 19 thread, []. You may want to slack off a little, so your positive comments regain an appropriate level of credence. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. July 7, 2009 in Technical/Restorations. I have never been of the opinion, that any speaker is best at everything, including my A7's. Khorns have surprisingly high WAF. What they share is their horn design and their efficiency. it sounds ultimately good and accurate. This is a sample of Klipsch's Flagship speaker displayed on their website! Did he say why (in detail)? I've considerable experience with both Klipsch and Altec speakers and IMO the Altecs are much smoother and have a more realistic midrange and late model Altecs with compensated crossovers (Models 14, 15, 18 and 19) have highs at least as extended as K-77 tweetered Klipsches. Materion Truextent makes replacement diaphragms, http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/publications/techletters/AN-11_EnclosurePlans.pdf. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. It has much more bass than the Heresy, is more They all sound good and they're all different. Sounds like you have found them underwhelming. Posted January 20, 2005. especially with the wife tired of projects, it's a can't go wrong option! The entire series was gradually expanded for use in general sound reinforcement and later converted in extreme high-end audio segments for hi-fi home use. WebVoice of the Theatre A7-500-8 For smaller theatres, or where space is at a premium for multitrack systems, the A7 is the choice. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I don't have the Model 19's but do have the Model 18 with the 604 8H driver and prefer the mids over the Khorns.The mids are much smoother.I like the point source driver the best. Your link has been automatically embedded. Its all about compromise because nothing does it all well. I can't wait to hear this setup! The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. The midrange is from the direct-radiating cone woofer and not from a horn-loaded 2.8k. It weighs about 220 lb. Audiogon Discussion Forum On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a The passive Truth be told I've never listened to a pair of Khorns but I do have the Cornscalas and am blown away by their openness and clarity so, along with my HH Scott amp and Empire turntable connected to the new Khorns.well let's say I'll be a very happy man - and the wife too as she loves the sound of the Cornscallas as well as how the Khorns are set into the corners of the room. The original K55 is still good enough though. On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: On 1/20/2005 11:02:47 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Regarding the 511 change I have a split center, I think I am going to by a single horn and build a new HF box for it to A/B and decide from there. Condition: Used Used. I still think the best driver for the Khorn is the later K55V or K55M. 811B Horns - Technical/Restorations - The Klipsch Audio

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